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Galatians 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." This is my granpa's favorite verse, and it is evident that he is still living out this verse.

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006

End times near?

As a Pre-mill, Pre-trib, I am not looking for end times signs for Christ's coming because it really doesn't matter, Christ could come at any moment. However, the Rapture Index is fascinating in its own way. http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for your interesting blog. You might enjoy going to Yahoo etc. and putting in "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," and, last but not least, "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg." Lord bless. B.N.

April 25, 2006 11:13 PM  
Blogger Gone Fishin' said...

>it really doesn't matter...

That's a statement that no Christian would have said 100 years ago, and it's amazing to see this thought slip into Christendom with such force the last few decades. Pop prophecy has not helped the Church. I hope you can take a step back and reevaluate.

>Christ could come at any moment.

Can find a verse that actually says that? Look at the verses your school shows you for this "any moment" theory. Do the verses REALLY say what they tell you they say?

Dave

April 26, 2006 7:45 PM  
Blogger Richard, James 4:14, Ecc. 12:13,14 said...

I am sorry for the wording "it doesn't really matter" that was a poor choice of words and really not what I meant. What I did mean is that as Christians we do not need to be concerned with end-times signs as the rapture will occur before the tribulation and millenium. As for the "any moment" passage, that would be 1 Corinthians 15:51,52
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

April 26, 2006 11:17 PM  
Blogger Gone Fishin' said...

Don't worry, I'm not one of those internet nuts that will bug you day in and day out, but I might for a day or two. :o)

Does that verse (1 Cor 15) really say that He could come at any moment? Does it address timing at all? It says, "In a moment...we will all be changed." The only thing the verse speaks of concerning timing is the fact that it will take place at the last trump, but issue of "in a moment" speaks of how quickly we will be changed. This "in a moment we will be changed" still holds true if Christ comes after the abomination. No matter when He comes we will all be changed in a twinkling of an eye at that moment.

Am I making my attempted point clear? I just hate to see well intentioned siminary types simply absorb their school's agenda.

Dave

April 27, 2006 5:41 AM  
Blogger Richard, James 4:14, Ecc. 12:13,14 said...

1 Thesselonians 4:13-5:8
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

April 27, 2006 7:19 AM  
Blogger Richard, James 4:14, Ecc. 12:13,14 said...

He will come as a thief in the night, with sudden destruction, If this doesn't mean that Christ will come at any moment, then what does it mean?

April 27, 2006 7:21 AM  
Blogger Richard, James 4:14, Ecc. 12:13,14 said...

The main reason I am a pre-mill, pre-trib rapture believer is the way I do hermeneutics. The main reason you believe pre-mill, pre-wrath is the way you do hermeneutics. I don't think debating is going to change when the return of the Lord is, but I am glad that you are challenging my thinking as now I am even more firm in my belief than I was before.

April 27, 2006 3:54 PM  
Blogger Gone Fishin' said...

>He will come as a thief in the night, with sudden destruction, If this doesn't mean that Christ will come at any moment, then what does it mean?<

I think you actually answered your own question by posting the passage that you did.

For when THEY shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon THEM, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

BUT ye, brethren, ARE NOT in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

So, it's NOT a thief to us. One quick question. When did Christ's coming become "imminent?"

Dave

April 27, 2006 9:18 PM  
Blogger Richard, James 4:14, Ecc. 12:13,14 said...

I am currently studying for finals, packing my stuff for the summer, working on overdue and soon due projects and papers, discussing Calvinism vs. Arminianism with my family, trying to work a full time job to pay for school and writing sermons and preparing to lead a youth group for a church this summer. All that to say, I really don't have time to argue with you. If you want the imminent return of Christ argument go to http://www.tyndale.edu/dirn/articles/rapture.html and argue with Dr. Tim Lahaye, which I already noticed on your blog you don't agree with anyway.

May 04, 2006 10:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm looking for the rapture also. I ran into an interesting piece about its history. Go to Yahoo and put in "Pretrib Rapture Diehards." And a couple other articles that are intriguing are "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal." Lord bless. Jon

May 06, 2006 11:53 PM  

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